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| comp113c |
Posted - 07/31/2009 : 5:13:58 PM
What are the rules to getting licensed in Top Eliminator? Can I license at another event or does it have to be an NSDA event? Just wanting to know so I can make a deadline for my car to get finished.
Thanks,
Kenny
Cameron Motorsports
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| tfsdragster |
Posted - 08/06/2009 : 4:45:22 PM
Bottom line thier is NO MONEY IN SAND RACING !!!!!! NSDA are not getting rich off these races I am sure of that , From what I here they actually lose money every race . They do a great job at giving us a facility to run our cars.
The alternative is we have a whole lot money that sits in our garages that isnt worth anything !
Sand Racing doesnt have a fan base, until you can get spectators to come watch us it will always be a losing battle .
We do this because we love it and thats the best reason to go racing !
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| swag7741 |
Posted - 08/06/2009 : 11:42:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ndvalium
quote:
Originally posted by swag7741
Top Fuel (22)
Top Alcohol (24)
Top Eliminator (49)
Now that would be a hell of a weekend......
Dave
Motorsports Safety Solutions
www.racesafely.com
DAVE, IF WE COULD GET THESE RACERS ALL TOFETHER AT ONCE...WOW,WHAT A SHOW!!! ALSO IF SOMEONE HAD ASKED ME HOW MANY RACERS HAVE RACED IN ELIMINATOR I WOULD OF NEVER GUESSED ABOUT "50", WOW! PLUS 22TF,24TA!
I MUST CONFESS, I DIDNT PUT THIS LIST TOGETHER. TOM BRAY FROM "NSDN" PUT IT TOGETHER, THANKS TOM! THESE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT RACERS HE HAS LISTED AS RACING IN THE TOP 3 CLASSES SINCE HE STARTED COVERING THE NSDA RACES!
RACE ON
SWAG
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| speed187 |
Posted - 08/06/2009 : 10:14:27 AM
quote:
Originally posted by rod trower
Hope my posts dont imply that I want to make Sand Drag Racing anything likne the NHRA. I only stated that NHRA
dose not think PRO is picking on them when they make a suggestion or question a rule. I dont want to have to have a membership to race, I think the license idea is too close to NHRA. But then again if it paid $12,000.00 per round perhaps I could learn to live with it.
Rodney O. Trower
No not at all I have just seen many organizations come and go and they all do the same thing try and make it like NHRA I agree with you about the money but I do think that some rules are good.
Todd
I Don't Have to be the Fastest...I Just Have to be Faster Than You!!!
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| rod trower |
Posted - 08/06/2009 : 09:23:43 AM
Hope my posts dont imply that I want to make Sand Drag Racing anything likne the NHRA. I only stated that NHRA
dose not think PRO is picking on them when they make a suggestion or question a rule. I dont want to have to have a membership to race, I think the license idea is too close to NHRA. But then again if it paid $12,000.00 per round perhaps I could learn to live with it.
Rodney O. Trower |
| speed187 |
Posted - 08/06/2009 : 09:03:05 AM
quote:
Originally posted by swag7741
TODD, JEFF AND NSDA, WE LOVE ALL OF YOU GUYS BUT THIS YIME I AM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE. NICK, MONEY IS AN ISSUE, NOT THE $20.00 FOR THE PASSES BUT HAVING TO GO HUNDREDS TO THOUSANDS OF MILES TO GET A LICENSING PASS, WHEN A GOOD SAFE TRACK IS CLOSER.
TODD THE ANYTHING FOR SAFTEY TRUMP CARD ISNT ALWAYS THE BEST PLAY. IM NOT SAYING TO REDUCE THE SAFTEY IN ANYWAY, BUT LETS LOOK AT IT THIS WAY. THE GUYS RACING AGAINST THESE NEW DRIVERS KNOW THESE CARS BETTER THAN THE ONES INCHARGE OF THE LICENSING NOW. NO DISRESPECT. HERE IS A SHORT LIST OF DRIVERS THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO SIGN OFF ON A LICENSE.
IF WE LEFT ANYONE OFF, IM SORRY FOR THAT.
Top Fuel (22)
- Joe Bettencourt
- Jeff Janoe
- Scott Whipple
- Keith Longerot
- Dennis Rieck
- John Crook Jr.
- Chris Barlow
- John McKoane
- Terri Blair
- Craig Brown
- Charlie Brown Jr.
- Michael Peasley
- Mark Sanders
- Matt Ludlow
- John Cadzow
- Shane Switzer
- Rick Stewart
- Rick Cameron
- Pete Schenk
- Geoff Gill
- Mike Rinehart
- Marcus Norris
Top Alcohol (24)
- Randy Savage
- Rick Stewart
- Shane Switzer
- Shane Sanford
- Richard Montiel
- Mike DeNunzio
- Dan Allen
- Gary Mink
- Jim Hammond
- Pedro Villa
- Rick Morris
- Nick Januik
- Scott Carroll
- Mike Davis
- Tim Martin
- Carey Mahoney
- David Morton
- Jay Poortenga
- Bob Piunti
- Craig Sines
- Rod Trower
- Dee Trower
- Pat Goodale
- Craig Hitchman
Top Eliminator (49)
- DL King
- Don Diffenbaugh Sr.
- Paul Taylor
- Steve Hoffman
- Jim Williams
- Tim Martin
- Shawn Thompson
- Chris Adamson
- Don Diffenbaugh Jr.
- Taylor Brewer
- Jeff Mamer
- Mike Erwin
- Rick Morris
- Craig Sines
- Terry Crawford
- Kurt Murphy
- John Keller
- Lori Ketron
- Mike Rasmussen
- Mark Punos
- Darrell Cypert
- Pete Schenk
- Bob Gill
- Paul Graham
- Paul Price
- Tiffany Januik
- Larry Snow
- Glen Hickey
- Sidney Payne
- Leon Januik
- Troy Turnock
- Vince Generalao
- Don Stein
- Billy Morris
- Ralph Switzer
- Dan Cronin
- Dee Trower
- Lori Goodale
- Jim Rossi
- Randy Stilwell
- Eddie Arant
- Bud Martens
- Art Cronin
- Rebecca Barlow
- Frank Prock
- Bob Snow
- Mario Tavares
- Ron D’Artenay
- A. Wimberly
AGAIN NO DISRESPECT.
RACE ON
SWAG
Well " MY BROTHER FROM ANOTHER MOTHER " I did not know I was playing "THE ANYTHING FOR SAFTEY TRUMP CARD"
Just my .000000002 cents and I think it is a good idea to make everyone get a LICENSE for all classes... Not saying people cant race but there is just to many things that can go wrong look I drove the same car for 3 years and ran the do-do out of it and I still smashed it do-do happens do-do some people are not allowed to drive a car on the street yet and will still let them race go figure you know me lets race I don’t care where, or against who, or with what group as long as I can pay my way in I will be there....So if anyone needs some Trophies let me know the new car is starting to be a boat... hahaha
Lets just go racing..........
Again just my .000000000000000002 cents.......
I Don't Have to be the Fastest...I Just Have to be Faster Than You!!!
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| speed187 |
Posted - 08/06/2009 : 08:51:24 AM
quote:
Originally posted by planBmotorsports
NSDA
Instead of making a driver waste a weekend Licensing at a racing event and some spending a bunch of money to drive to these events to license when some have tracks closer to there house that may or may not be sanctioned then what is wrong with changing this to something like NHRA does. Have a form that is downloaded from your website with all the requirments of licensing and have a place for 3 current licensed drivers in that class that are there witnessing it to sign off on the license. We are the ones in the lane next to them so I dont believe that anyone is going to sign off unless they fell they can saftly run next to them. In my opinion I think that tracks like Primm and Avenal are hard enough to control a car in the shutdown for a experinced driver and are no place for someone that has not driven before. We need all the racers we can get at each and every event so why not make it easier for people to show up and race safely.
Nick
Ok this is where everything all ways takes a S**T....Every time someone starts a new organization for sand racing the members all ways want to be like someone else....So here is the app. to get your LICENSE to drive FUEL in NHRA....
and if you read it all you will see
" Drivers who have not competed (or have let their NHRA license expire) for a period of two (2) years will have to meet all NEW DRIVER REQUIREMENTS. For TF and FC who have not
competed for two years, license will become inactive, three (3) test runs will be required to re-activate; see runs 4, 5 and 6. Test runs must be completed at an NHRA Member Track. "
If I read this right the track must be a NHRA Member Track....Not Jimbob's field while drinking a beer....
Hell guys I do not run your classes but it does not matter we all have the same goal....RACE ARE CARS IN THE SAND AND LIVE TO DRINK BEER AFTER....
Everyone talks the good talk and cries that we can never race or not race enough so you think we as racers would do what ever we can, want, and should do just to go race. let me think I want to run my car but I have to make 3 passes or I can't race with the NSDA so hello make the passes and run your car....I think some people just want to find a reason why they will not come and race with us...If you realy want to run your car I think you do what ever you have to.....
I am not trying to piss anyone off but this is starting to turn into high school bull S**T...
Just my .000000000002 cents
I Don't Have to be the Fastest...I Just Have to be Faster Than You!!!
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| SpAzz |
Posted - 08/05/2009 : 10:00:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by AZ TF MOUSE
Hell, I am just happy to not be forgotten on the list!!!! Thanks!!!!
Dang John your even in the top half! |
| ndvalium |
Posted - 08/05/2009 : 9:54:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by swag7741
Top Fuel (22)
- Joe Bettencourt
- Jeff Janoe
- Scott Whipple
- Keith Longerot
- Dennis Rieck
- John Crook Jr.
- Chris Barlow
- John McKoane
- Terri Blair
- Craig Brown
- Charlie Brown Jr.
- Michael Peasley
- Mark Sanders
- Matt Ludlow
- John Cadzow
- Shane Switzer
- Rick Stewart
- Rick Cameron
- Pete Schenk
- Geoff Gill
- Mike Rinehart
- Marcus Norris
Top Alcohol (24)
- Randy Savage
- Rick Stewart
- Shane Switzer
- Shane Sanford
- Richard Montiel
- Mike DeNunzio
- Dan Allen
- Gary Mink
- Jim Hammond
- Pedro Villa
- Rick Morris
- Nick Januik
- Scott Carroll
- Mike Davis
- Tim Martin
- Carey Mahoney
- David Morton
- Jay Poortenga
- Bob Piunti
- Craig Sines
- Rod Trower
- Dee Trower
- Pat Goodale
- Craig Hitchman
Top Eliminator (49)
- DL King
- Don Diffenbaugh Sr.
- Paul Taylor
- Steve Hoffman
- Jim Williams
- Tim Martin
- Shawn Thompson
- Chris Adamson
- Don Diffenbaugh Jr.
- Taylor Brewer
- Jeff Mamer
- Mike Erwin
- Rick Morris
- Craig Sines
- Terry Crawford
- Kurt Murphy
- John Keller
- Lori Ketron
- Mike Rasmussen
- Mark Punos
- Darrell Cypert
- Pete Schenk
- Bob Gill
- Paul Graham
- Paul Price
- Tiffany Januik
- Larry Snow
- Glen Hickey
- Sidney Payne
- Leon Januik
- Troy Turnock
- Vince Generalao
- Don Stein
- Billy Morris
- Ralph Switzer
- Dan Cronin
- Dee Trower
- Lori Goodale
- Jim Rossi
- Randy Stilwell
- Eddie Arant
- Bud Martens
- Art Cronin
- Rebecca Barlow
- Frank Prock
- Bob Snow
- Mario Tavares
- Ron D’Artenay
- A. Wimberly
Now that would be a hell of a weekend......
Dave
Motorsports Safety Solutions
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| theaztopfuelgroup |
Posted - 08/05/2009 : 9:38:50 PM
Rod, PRO and the NHRA is a great example of what we need here. I have commented before, we need a competition committee not what we currently have. I would agree this entire discussion has nothing to do with safety, but control the NSDA is not willing to give up!
Personally, a hand tied to the roll cage race would be an interesting side show. How about a backwards race? Hell I will put up the first $100.00 to see a backwards, hand tied to the roll cage race, any body else want join in? I have been a promoter and you're right, it is a thankless job. Like many other people I have complimented the NSDA when necessary.
Swag, 22 T/F cars on your list, there will be less than a handful in Avenal. I will be curious to see how many cars in the other classes show up. Could you imagine if half of each list showed at a single race. What a show that would be!
These forums could be a valuable tool for the NSDA/NSRA to use for the next big step! As long as opinions still matter,
we will be watching and commenting as usual.
Charlie Lowe
The AZ Top Fuel Group
Cadzow Motorsports
Coldwater Kid T/F
JWJ Racing
Pat Norris Racing
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| AZ TF MOUSE |
Posted - 08/05/2009 : 6:41:08 PM
Hell, I am just happy to not be forgotten on the list!!!! Thanks!!!! |
| swag7741 |
Posted - 08/05/2009 : 4:21:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by rod trower
Shoot swag, ya let me down. I was sure you were going to post after my last one, but I would have bet it was to challange me to the hand tied to the roll cage race. LOL.
Rodney O. Trower
HECK ROD I WAS SURE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MY LAST PASS AT PRIMM. I HIT A ROCK ON THAT PASS AND IT KNOCKED THE WHEEL OUT OF MY LEFT HAND.
SO THAT HAND WAS UP IN THE AIR AS I TRYED TO REGRASP THE WHEEL. AT THE RODEO THEY CALL IT WHIPPING AND SPURRING.
ROD, WHATS THE STORY BEHIND SOUTH POINT CASINO? WOULD THEY BE INTERESTED IN HAVING SAND DRAGS???
RACE ON
SWAG |
| rod trower |
Posted - 08/05/2009 : 3:30:55 PM
Shoot swag, ya let me down. I was sure you were going to post after my last one, but I would have bet it was to challange me to the hand tied to the roll cage race. LOL.
Rodney O. Trower |
| swag7741 |
Posted - 08/05/2009 : 1:53:55 PM
TODD, JEFF AND NSDA, WE LOVE ALL OF YOU GUYS BUT THIS YIME I AM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE. NICK, MONEY IS AN ISSUE, NOT THE $20.00 FOR THE PASSES BUT HAVING TO GO HUNDREDS TO THOUSANDS OF MILES TO GET A LICENSING PASS, WHEN A GOOD SAFE TRACK IS CLOSER.
TODD THE ANYTHING FOR SAFTEY TRUMP CARD ISNT ALWAYS THE BEST PLAY. IM NOT SAYING TO REDUCE THE SAFTEY IN ANYWAY, BUT LETS LOOK AT IT THIS WAY. THE GUYS RACING AGAINST THESE NEW DRIVERS KNOW THESE CARS BETTER THAN THE ONES INCHARGE OF THE LICENSING NOW. NO DISRESPECT. HERE IS A SHORT LIST OF DRIVERS THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO SIGN OFF ON A LICENSE.
IF WE LEFT ANYONE OFF, IM SORRY FOR THAT.
Top Fuel (22)
- Joe Bettencourt
- Jeff Janoe
- Scott Whipple
- Keith Longerot
- Dennis Rieck
- John Crook Jr.
- Chris Barlow
- John McKoane
- Terri Blair
- Craig Brown
- Charlie Brown Jr.
- Michael Peasley
- Mark Sanders
- Matt Ludlow
- John Cadzow
- Shane Switzer
- Rick Stewart
- Rick Cameron
- Pete Schenk
- Geoff Gill
- Mike Rinehart
- Marcus Norris
Top Alcohol (24)
- Randy Savage
- Rick Stewart
- Shane Switzer
- Shane Sanford
- Richard Montiel
- Mike DeNunzio
- Dan Allen
- Gary Mink
- Jim Hammond
- Pedro Villa
- Rick Morris
- Nick Januik
- Scott Carroll
- Mike Davis
- Tim Martin
- Carey Mahoney
- David Morton
- Jay Poortenga
- Bob Piunti
- Craig Sines
- Rod Trower
- Dee Trower
- Pat Goodale
- Craig Hitchman
Top Eliminator (49)
- DL King
- Don Diffenbaugh Sr.
- Paul Taylor
- Steve Hoffman
- Jim Williams
- Tim Martin
- Shawn Thompson
- Chris Adamson
- Don Diffenbaugh Jr.
- Taylor Brewer
- Jeff Mamer
- Mike Erwin
- Rick Morris
- Craig Sines
- Terry Crawford
- Kurt Murphy
- John Keller
- Lori Ketron
- Mike Rasmussen
- Mark Punos
- Darrell Cypert
- Pete Schenk
- Bob Gill
- Paul Graham
- Paul Price
- Tiffany Januik
- Larry Snow
- Glen Hickey
- Sidney Payne
- Leon Januik
- Troy Turnock
- Vince Generalao
- Don Stein
- Billy Morris
- Ralph Switzer
- Dan Cronin
- Dee Trower
- Lori Goodale
- Jim Rossi
- Randy Stilwell
- Eddie Arant
- Bud Martens
- Art Cronin
- Rebecca Barlow
- Frank Prock
- Bob Snow
- Mario Tavares
- Ron D’Artenay
- A. Wimberly
AGAIN NO DISRESPECT.
RACE ON
SWAG
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| rod trower |
Posted - 08/05/2009 : 1:49:26 PM
Safety is important and so are rules. NHRA has PRO and the debate NHRA rules all the time. NHRA dose not take it personal and I am sure NSDA dose not either. I am not debating this policy to bash or put down NSDA or any promoter in any fashon. I dont want there job and want nothing to do with being a race promoter. I just want to race. I dont have to license but would be happy to make passes with one had tied to the top roll bar if that is what it took to be allowed to race. However I cant see how this rule makes anything safer, except I guess with less cars at the event there would be less chance of an accident. Less cars, less spectators, less interest by casino's,less money, and on and on.
Rodney O. Trower |
| speed187 |
Posted - 08/05/2009 : 12:13:02 PM
BOTTOM LINE SAFETY
YOUR LIFE.......PRICELESS.....
I Don't Have to be the Fastest...I Just Have to be Faster Than You!!!
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